Thursday, February 02, 2012

Slow Learners

I have lost count of what iteration this is, but the Truthers attempting to sue on behalf of April Gallop, have lost yet again.  This time at least they got a mention by Reuters.


A federal appeals court sanctioned two California lawyers on Thursday over a lawsuit they filed, dismissed as frivolous, that accused former officials in the Bush administration of allowing the September 11 Pentagon attack to occur as part of a broad conspiracy.The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit ordered the two lawyers to pay $15,000 total in sanctions in addition to double an unspecified amount the government spent defending the case.
Three attorneys -- Dennis Cunningham, William Veale and Mustapha Ndanusa -- filed the lawsuit in 2008 on behalf of April Gallop, a member of the U.S. Army injured in the Pentagon attack on September 11, 2001.
The lawyers accused then-Vice President Dick Cheney and then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld of allowing the Pentagon attack to occur through inaction, despite having what the suit described as real-time information that a hijacked plane was approaching.

22 Comments:

At 03 February, 2012 07:23, Blogger Ian said...

Continued from the last post

Ian, that's not what I said. I said that explosives planted inside the hollow box columns might have bulged out the walls of thermite-weakened columns, creating stress concentrations leading to buckling of the columns.

Sure, and modified attack baboons might have planted micro-nuked that caused the towers to collapse.

Hey, my "theory" only has two wild assertions unsupported by any evidence. Yours has three, Brian. Mine is more likely.

No one has yet provided any evidence that explosives sealed up inside hollow box columns that did not breach the walls of those columns would create significant noise outside the columns.

Right, because nobody needs to provide evidence against this proposition because there isn't a shred of evidence this this in fact occurred. The babbling of a failed janitor who wears women's underwear is not evidence.

 
At 03 February, 2012 08:35, Blogger TruthersrAlwaysWrong said...

I think that lawsuit from Arpil Gallop is hilarious.

How many times has she gone through this lawsuit and failed?

This should be a warning to all Truthers who wish to pursue lawsuits against the Gov. that they're not gonna win anything.

 
At 03 February, 2012 08:37, Blogger TruthersrAlwaysWrong said...

Ian,

Brian still doesn't get it. If there were explosives planted inside the columns, those columns would've been blown off (like a firecracker placed in a fist).

Let him jibber jabber like a delusional loon. He's not proving anything except for what he is.

 
At 03 February, 2012 10:27, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, no credible evidence of modified attack baboons exists. Do I need to provide evidence that explosives exist, and that their effects can be modulated through the employment of small and medium and large charges? Are you going to dispute that?

You constantly revert to a "theory v. theory" analysis, and you demand that any theory be stated in 20 words or less. That's a stupid game that is heavily biased toward conventional wisdom.

I am simply trying to establish facts. I need not provide evidence for a theory that explosives were planted inside the columns in order to refute the silly proposition that there were no explosives because if there had been, they would have been very loud.

Truthless, you seem to believe that a M-80 firecracker inside a box column would blow the column apart.
You need to think again.

 
At 03 February, 2012 10:53, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, no credible evidence of modified attack baboons exists. Do I need to provide evidence that explosives exist, and that their effects can be modulated through the employment of small and medium and large charges? Are you going to dispute that?

Brian, what makes you think that baboons don't exist? Did Willie Rodriguez tell you that?

You constantly revert to a "theory v. theory" analysis, and you demand that any theory be stated in 20 words or less. That's a stupid game that is heavily biased toward conventional wisdom.

Brian, you constantly tell us that you don't have any theories. Then you babbles about silent, invisible explosives (much as you babble about invisible widows with imaginary questions). Are you saying you do have a theory?

I am simply trying to establish facts.

No, you're speculating mindlessly about things that didn't happen.

I need not provide evidence for a theory that explosives were planted inside the columns in order to refute the silly proposition that there were no explosives because if there had been, they would have been very loud.

Except that you haven't refuted anything. You just babbled about imaginary invisible silent explosives that work together with invisible super thermite.

Also, it would be nice if you occasionally provided any evidence that your "widows" have questions.

 
At 03 February, 2012 17:46, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"I am simply trying to establish facts."

...and then Brain actually quotes the conspiracy loon playbook:

"I need not provide evidence for a theory that explosives were planted inside the columns in order to refute the silly proposition that there were no explosives because if there had been, they would have been very loud."

Conspiracy Loon Playbook:

Step 1: Throw out a scenario.
Step 2: When challenged to deomstrate your scenario, and then show it happened in the desired event simply say "I don't need to provide evidence".

Scientific Method:

Question
Hypothesis
Prediction
Testing
Data
Conclusion

Brian Good method:

Conclusion
Hypothesis
New Conclusion (much like old conclusion)
Hypothesis (Son of Hypothesis)
Question (of own conclusion)
Return of first Hypothesis
First Conclusion Strikes Back

Notice the lack of Data, Testing, and Prediction. Meatball on a fork doesn't cut it.

 
At 04 February, 2012 09:54, Blogger TruthersrAlwaysWrong said...

you seem to believe that a M-80 firecracker inside a box column would blow the column apart.
You need to think again.


And you'd believe me anyways cause you lack the mental compacity to convert that firecracker into C-4 explosives. Dumbass.

 
At 04 February, 2012 10:14, Blogger TruthersrAlwaysWrong said...

BTW Brian, I told someone from JREF that you're "SuperLogicalThinker".

Since it's a coincidence that SLT was was talking up a storm and you were no where to be found on here. And after SLT got suspended, you reappear.

 
At 04 February, 2012 14:45, Blogger snug.bug said...

Don't try to think, Toothless, you're obviously not equipped for it.

 
At 04 February, 2012 15:24, Blogger snug.bug said...

Here's a little puzzle for you, Truthless. Have fun!

1. I know who SuperLogicalThinker is.

2. I am SuperLogicalThinker.

3. Only 2 of these three statements are true.

 
At 04 February, 2012 15:37, Blogger Ian said...

Don't try to think, Toothless, you're obviously not equipped for it.

This is hilarious coming from a failed janitor who believes in magic thermite elves.

 
At 04 February, 2012 15:40, Blogger Ian said...

Here's a better puzzle, Brian:

1. Brian is petgoat.

2. Brian has been expelled from the truth movement

3. All these statements are true.

Have fun!

 
At 04 February, 2012 17:01, Blogger Michael Lewis said...

There's a SuperLogicalThinker on YouTube. If it's the same guy it doesn't sound like snug. See example.

 
At 04 February, 2012 18:02, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"So I am going to go with these 2, as I post at JREF your patterns of posting look the same. Neither has any idea what's going on at all, and neither of you can make a valid\truthful point."

Nope.

Superlogicalstinker can focus, Brian cannot. Super hasn't brought up the widows, or fielded awful anologies (meatball on a fork, the freight train, cardboard bridges, etc).

I suspect Brian steals his stuff though, they're both drinking from the same bucket of coolaid.

 
At 06 February, 2012 11:45, Blogger TruthersrAlwaysWrong said...

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At 06 February, 2012 11:45, Blogger TruthersrAlwaysWrong said...

All of us know that Brian has alot of sock puppet accounts on YouTube and elsewhere.

Just the fact that it bugs Brian that I think he's "SuperLogicalThinker" on JREF and the way he talked about thermite, nano thermite and thermodynamics at the exact same time Brian was commenting on here lead me to believe that it is Brian.

 
At 06 February, 2012 14:39, Blogger snug.bug said...

Wacko, sometimes when people find an argument on the internet that they respect, they copy it into a file for their reference.

The mere fact that somebody copied my words does not mean that somebody is me.

When I say "e=mc^2" that doesn't make me one of Einstein's sock-puppets.

 
At 06 February, 2012 17:42, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"When I say "e=mc^2" that doesn't make me one of Einstein's sock-puppets."

See what I mean. Super doesn't go off into fruitcakeville.

 
At 07 February, 2012 11:31, Blogger snug.bug said...

Isn't Fruitcakeville somewhere between Castroville and Moss Landing?

 
At 07 February, 2012 11:56, Blogger TruthersrAlwaysWrong said...

sometimes when people find an argument on the internet that they respect, they copy it into a file for their reference.

Unlike you, you just rant about stupid shit every day, week, month, year, decade and expect us to listen to your repetative ramblings. Sorry, but you're not thinking for yourself homo.

When I say "e=mc^2" that doesn't make me one of Einstein's sock-puppets.

You know nothing about Einstein. If Einstein would've remained in Germany, the Nazis would've had a Nuclear bomb and all of us would be talking German, including your sorry ass.

 
At 07 February, 2012 15:48, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"Isn't Fruitcakeville somewhere between Castroville and Moss Landing?"

Nope. It's right between your ears.

 
At 08 February, 2012 08:38, Blogger snug.bug said...

Is that what passes for wit in Moss Landing?

 

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